First let me say I'm no expert and that I have been putting out seed for 3 years. I have learned by trial and error. I tried planting in a woods, but my clover didn't get enough light or rain. I then tried some in a fence row I cleaned up, no ph testing or fertilizer, slow growing but did eventually get to be about 15" in a strip 2' x 8' long. Last year I cleaned up around the front of the swamp. 30' x 100' Layed down lime and fertilized, worked the ground best I could, and was able to liquid fertilize after seeds popped up. Best I've done yet. I over planted my seeds, but it was very thick. I dont hold deer on my property, but I am a pass through. This plot held deer here a little longer and also gave them a nice patch of clover to munch on. This year, we have bought the 3 acres from behind us to the swamp, and I plan on doing around an acre to acre and a half, which use to be farm field. Test your soil! Add proper lime if needed! and have a good seed bed!! Good luck!